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2019-05-28 Richmond, VA
« on: May 29, 2019, 10:07:23 PM »
I didn't see a thread for this show - sorry in advance if this is a double post.

I saw them last night. Vasoline looks to be posted here: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJQz-nYT3y4&list=RDyJQz-nYT3y4&start_radio=1&t=0[/size]


Wicked - [/size][size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shMPla-FAkU[/size]


STT - [/size][size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wJKeOMxNlw[/size]


Trippin - [/size][size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULFKNen565c[/size]


Dead and Bloated - [/size][size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDchgmQbee8[/size]


Creep - [/size][size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyOBLw8WAhw[/size]


Crackerman - [/size][size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7xtkcjVSts[/size]


ILS - [/size][size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPZ7mOhJvds[/size]


Here's the setlist: [/size][size=78%]https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/stone-temple-pilots/2019/the-national-richmond-va-6b905a76.html[/size]


Yes, I can confirm they played 19 songs including Pruno (?!?!?! WHAT !?!?!?) - and that song fucking rocked. Holy shit I'm still shocked they played that. Sex & Violence and Glide were also played, for a total of 4 songs off of 4 including Down. Didn't expect that.


I would say the peak of the evening was Roll Me Under where Jeff went up to the upstairs seated area and made his way through the crowd. It was so intense he was really getting into it. At one point he sang a part, removed the mic from his face, looked down at the crowd with wide eyes and just screamed "AHHHH!!!!!!" with this crazy intense look on his face. It was awesome to see.


I can tell Jeff has worked really, really hard. He looks more fit and he's made subtle changes to his dance moves, stage presence, phrasing - all of it. It's little stuff but you can tell how seriously he takes it and he raises the bar every time. We all knew he could sing all the notes to all the songs, but he's also finding wins in other areas. You can tell he's really paying attention to detail. He's performing a little slower - if that makes any sense - and he was showing a lot more teeth in his phrasing to get a deeper and more intense tone. I was really impressed.


The band sounded SO THICK and just tight as hell. No surprise really they play this stuff like the back of their hand. It was a crazy good show. Crazy good. And I've seen them 3 times with Jeff before this so this was my 4th and it was by far the best. You tire of the 45 minute festival power hit set. This was a real headline show with 19 songs they really BLITZED through, including some deep cuts which was really cool. A special treat.


Can't wait for the new album. This band is ascending again and firing on all cylinders. They may never be able to get much momentum with Jeff, we'll see, but they are a really good band that commands respect. Jeff is getting better every time out and he's a phenomenal singer any band would be lucky to have honestly.

So glad I went. I fell in love all over again. VIVA STP!

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Re: 2019-05-28 Richmond, VA
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2019, 10:56:52 PM »
Glad you had a great time. Good to see them playing full sets again (for now). Although I have to say it's a little disappointing that they're basically playing the exact same set from early 2018.
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Re: 2019-05-28 Richmond, VA
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2019, 12:49:42 AM »
I'm kinda confused about this.


1. These articles I read boast about Jeff's songwriting and how great he is at it.
2. They play 19 song sets on average, let's say.


So, if Jeff is this great songwriter then why is only 2 out of 19 songs played are his? They have a full album under Jeff's name. What 10-12 songs? Shouldn't it then be 10-12 of Jeff's great songwriting songs and 7-9 Scott's songs? Shouldn't the goal be to push the new singer and grab a new audience? Jeff is younger so he should be able to get his own fans in his generation and younger, right?


If STP keeps stating Jeff is great then why do they just keep playing only two of his songs? Even if they played every song on the new album, it still leaves plenty of fan favorite songs to mix in with the new? It's a 50/50 split. It's not risking anymore then they already are by moving forward with a new singer, but it's high time he starts proving he is the man for the job or accept the fact, you are a cover tune singer.


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Re: 2019-05-28 Richmond, VA
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2019, 04:29:30 PM »
It's got nothing to do with how good Jeff is at songwriting or singing, it is down to what they perceive the audience wants, which is the hits.

They only ever played a handful of songs off Scott's last album with them as well, because they consigned themselves to the nostalgia bin the moment they split up originally. They've been playing hits tours since 2008. They did 5 years of hits tours with Scott fronting them. Same with High Rise, they had 5 songs with Chester, they only played two of them, despite Chester being one of the most famous and capable rock singers in the world (even though I think LP are shit).

I'm just glad they bother to make new music at all. It's more than most bands on the comeback trail do. It's no reflection on Jeff that they choose to play their hits instead, they are an old band playing a style of music that is 20 years out of fashion, they aren't going to suddenly pick up a legion of young fans by playing new tunes.

They are making STP records, not Jeff Gutt records, so the fact he is younger is irrelevant.

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Re: 2019-05-28 Richmond, VA
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2019, 05:37:40 AM »
Scott was truly a great song writer and on many occasions did STP play only 2 songs from latest album
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Re: 2019-05-28 Richmond, VA
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2019, 03:56:02 AM »
Scott was truly a great song writer and on many occasions did STP play only 2 songs from latest album

I feel like that is different than them not playing new stuff now. They're trying to tell everyone that they're serious about doing this with Jeff and moving forward.

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Re: 2019-05-28 Richmond, VA
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2019, 05:02:25 AM »
Good point
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Re: 2019-05-28 Richmond, VA
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2019, 04:51:21 PM »
Well maybe the band is afraid of lack of recognition. I can honestly say that I haven't heard a single new STP track spun on Chicago area radio ever.  On that note I don't even know what channel in Chicago would play "new remnant rock" - Q101 certainly doesn't.
But the point is that the new tour should be loaded with new tracks, but if JeffTP is playing mostly old cuts then it's likely because the new record isn't tracking well with fan recognition. I'm obviously speculating here.....
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Re: 2019-05-28 Richmond, VA
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2019, 05:49:33 PM »
Well maybe the band is afraid of lack of recognition. I can honestly say that I haven't heard a single new STP track spun on Chicago area radio ever.  On that note I don't even know what channel in Chicago would play "new remnant rock" - Q101 certainly doesn't.
But the point is that the new tour should be loaded with new tracks, but if JeffTP is playing mostly old cuts then it's likely because the new record isn't tracking well with fan recognition. I'm obviously speculating here.....


I don't know. I doubt Glide or Pruno are getting a lot of audience recognition. They could easily be playing Six Eight and Finest Hour instead.
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