I don't get the new metal references at all. Its just a balls out rock record with some amazing acoustic songs in it as well (No way out, Sour Girl). I think it would have done substantially better than self titled, but some of you guys are right rock is not in the mainstream right now. So I think it would have done better but nothing crazy. I do think "Down" would have gotten them substantial rock radio play if it was released recently though. Self Titled songs were to soft by my stations standards to get huge play on my local Rock Radio Station, but "Down" and "Heaven and Hot Rods" for instance I think could have got substantial play on Rock Radio. Just like AIC did with Check my Brain and like Soundgarden probably will when their album is released. They played between the lines just because it was new stp, but it wasn't heavy enough for hard rock radio. Which is the reason why you never hear them play it anymore on Hard Rock Stations.