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Lazy Divey
« on: April 13, 2018, 04:28:43 PM »
I’m sure this has been discussed before but the search didn’t get me what I hoped to see...


I see that ‘Lazy Divey’ was cut from 12BB. But a couple internet searches led me to tid bits suggesting the first copies of 12 Bar Blues may have included Lazy Divey... as many things are not true around the web, that leads me to ask you guys.


What is the run down on this track? Was it originally included and then the album had to be pulled from shelves or was this track scrapped before 12BB’s release?


This song makes me miss scott so much. This song is pure fucking gold. If anyone needs to share an example of Scott just let them hear Lazy Divey

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Re: Lazy Divey
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2018, 05:47:33 PM »
The song was featured on promotional copies of the album only and then the album track listing was reworked prior to release due to the song basically taking a copy written nursery song. I agree the song is really terrific. I think there were a few unreleased tracks from 12BB. Overall, this is a terribly underrated album. There’s some really terrific music there, and Scott works some great melodies into the mix. Divider has always been my favorite.
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Re: Lazy Divey
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2018, 05:56:25 PM »
Yeah, the general consensus was the fact that the nursery rhyme/song Marsy Doats was copywritten..the chorus is lifted from that song.

It's a shame it wasn't included as its one of my favorite weird songs of his.  Also, he played it live a couple of times before the album's release.  Recently, someone finally posted a video of one such performance, the audio has been out there for ages https://youtu.be/hWfQI51dRBk?t=15m13s

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Re: Lazy Divey
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2018, 08:10:26 PM »
Thank you two for your info on this track  8)


I was hoping there might be a small chance i could stumble across a copy of it either eBay or a buy sell type of record cd store. I heard some of these tracks which found their way to YouTube awhile back but since I don’t have them downloaded this one especially surprised me again when I had a few things autoplaying. This is easily one of my favorite things scott has put together. Every bit of it is just beautiful.

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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2018, 08:47:31 PM »
Love this tune. The na-na-na's are very Hey Jude as well.
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Re: Lazy Divey
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2018, 07:56:14 PM »
The song was featured on promotional copies of the album only and then the album track listing was reworked prior to release due to the song basically taking a copy written nursery song. I agree the song is really terrific. I think there were a few unreleased tracks from 12BB. Overall, this is a terribly underrated album. There’s some really terrific music there, and Scott works some great melodies into the mix. Divider has always been my favorite.


Divider was the song that got me on the first time hearing 12BB all those years ago too. The attitude and perspective he tells the story from really spoke to me and still does.


This stuff here along with any of the big blue missile stuff is just amazing to me. I wish scott could have done a lot more material similar to what we have mentioned here. Ashes to ashes is a great version he did and Scott is just so good at doing ‘Bowie’. Honestly better, but many would not like to read those words, I know Im preaching to the chrior here but my goodness this guy was great.


So do any of you think there’s much of a chance at one of those promotional copies surfacing with Lazy Divey? Has anyone here got it or stumbled upon it at some point before?
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Re: Lazy Divey
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2018, 08:40:25 PM »
The song was featured on promotional copies of the album only and then the album track listing was reworked prior to release due to the song basically taking a copy written nursery song. I agree the song is really terrific. I think there were a few unreleased tracks from 12BB. Overall, this is a terribly underrated album. There’s some really terrific music there, and Scott works some great melodies into the mix. Divider has always been my favorite.


Divider was the song that got me on the first time hearing 12BB all those years ago too. The attitude and perspective he tells the story from really spoke to me and still does.


This stuff here along with any of the big blue missile stuff is just amazing to me. I wish scott could have done a lot more material similar to what we have mentioned here. Ashes to ashes is a great version he did and Scott is just so good at doing ‘Bowie’. Honestly better, but many would not like to read those words, I know Im preaching to the chrior here but my goodness this guy was great.


So do any of you think there’s much of a chance at one of those promotional copies surfacing with Lazy Divey? Has anyone here got it or stumbled upon it at some point before?

I honestly wish you the best of luck finding a copy. I'm pretty sure that sort of thing is in the hands of someone who doesn't know what they have. I used to live in LA and would end up at garage sales with authentic movie props, rare music memorabilia, and even autographed stuff going dirt cheap. I can sadly assume this sort of thing is in a box somewhere being ignored.

I typed "12 Bar Blues Promotional" into Google and some images to website came up:

https://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=118267

https://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=494366

http://frame.goglasi.com/frame?eid=76635811&q=%20STIMULATOR (Promo copy, but does not have Lazy Divey on it)

https://www.belowempty.com/forum/index.php?topic=6277.0 (Looks like back in 2011, someone posted some pictures of it.)

As far as Divider goes, the slower STP/Weiland stuff is the reason I absolutely love the band. Songs like Son, Where's The Man?, and Divider really stood out above the rest of the album's songs. I remember playing that song over and over again. It was catchy and I felt like it was pure Scott and I love the variety of percussion instruments used as you could tell Scott was at a great creative peak.

The tricky part with attempting to find a copy with Lazy Divey is that there are "promotional copies" on eBay right now, but they do not contain the track. As I said, people are unlikely to know what they have. Therefore, I would keep checking for sure.

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Re: Lazy Divey
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2018, 08:49:42 PM »
You want either the 13 track or 14 track promo, any “promo” with gold lettering stamped on the regular album cover won’t have the extra track:


https://www.belowempty.com/discography.php?do=showrelease&type=solo_projects&id=290


https://www.belowempty.com/discography.php?do=showrelease&type=solo_projects&id=289

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Re: Lazy Divey
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2020, 04:27:28 PM »
Thinking about the "Mairzy Doats" lyrics. Is this something that would easily corrected through co-writing credit or sample clearance or the like (i know it's not a sample of the actual old recording by The Merry Macs).

It'd be great to include it on a 25th anniversary set - even though that's some time from now.

Also, Chateau Mars has always been listed as a rough mix. I remember it sounding pretty harsh to put it nicely. Does anyone know if this was multi-tracked at any point, in which it can be officially mixed?
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Re: Lazy Divey
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2023, 03:29:08 PM »
Thinking about the "Mairzy Doats" lyrics. Is this something that would easily corrected through co-writing credit or sample clearance or the like (i know it's not a sample of the actual old recording by The Merry Macs).

It'd be great to include it on a 25th anniversary set - even though that's some time from now.

Also, Chateau Mars has always been listed as a rough mix. I remember it sounding pretty harsh to put it nicely. Does anyone know if this was multi-tracked at any point, in which it can be officially mixed?

Glad we're finally getting these officially.
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